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ar0u30fc
Joined: 15 Apr 2005
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 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: retail architecture response |
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Hi
In response to WillJennings, I hope that the idea will simply borrow from other cities (people, money, ideas and events) that have become selfsufficient from years of building an economic base. The city I am working on is a place called Skelmersdale and doesn't have this at all.
keshav_architect, after thinking hard about my project, from a design point of view, creating a space that resembles a maze/jungle, surrounding customers with several avenues, levels and shops would allow for more spending. In most retail centres that I know, the shops from the exterior are very similar, it is the owners who then personalise the space suited to their needs. Therefore I am not commiting my self to design the shop but am focusing on designing the space in between. At the moment I envisage a maze like space, narrow streets (similar to the likes of Barcelona) that take the user on different levels without them knowning. What I want to do though is make it fun? I want to create something fun in one place which will attract the user to come near? Any ideas? |
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jaime
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Location: wellington, new zealand
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
just out of curiousity because I'm passionate in urban design. I like your idea, but how do you discourage unsanitary people within the 'narrow', 'maze-like' streets. If the streets are narrow and the maze means people are less likely to know where they are going and how to find the quickest route to get help, how do you suggest a solution to this problem? |
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VANDANA
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: |
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i think it is a great idea to make retail outlets more interestin may be u can give it a jungle theme itself n may incorporate shops in it like an evnvironmental park maybe u can think of narrow lanes which r not xactly narrow but r made to loook like as if they r narrow by incorporatin some landscape elements as well as some of the contemporary materials such as steel, glass,wood dont forget to take care of the handicapped people who r a prime concern, ramps n all could be encouraged
all d best |
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ar0u30fc
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: retail response..response |
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Hi Jaime, the point regarding how unsanitary people respond to a small space is important....maybe a system would be installed at the entrance to a space which encouraged people to be clean (exterior sinks, lots of bins etc?) Funnily enough, my design actually shifted from creating small narrow spaces to creating a kind of visual illusion where the user would feel like they were standing in a narrow street, surrounded by shops at different levels and of different sizes...(almost trapped in a shoppers paradise yet allowing for pleasant surrounding through the use of attractive landscaping and materiality which encouraged happiness) The ground space was actually quite vast, yet the organisation of the space and how the retail spaces were placed in relation to each other created (what I thought) a feeling similar to what I was originally trying to achieve (like in Barcelona).
Verdanna, I really liked your idea of incorpoarting landscaping to create a jungle like theme. I think a successful example of this is the Park Quell in Barcelona where there are so many levels the space actually feels like a jungle. I agree that the use of aesthetic materials like glass and wood is what would create a fun retail space!(No Concrete for this project!)
Thanks for your replies! |
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jaime
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Location: wellington, new zealand
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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That sounds great,
I'm kind of working on a similar design, where I am redesigning a currently poor excuse for a mall in a fairly large area with lots of undeveloped land. I was originally looking at a grided system for the layout of seperate shops/residential/business/etc that overlapped like a Mondrian painting, creating these maze like pathways, which is why I asked you the question about safety!!
I also have changed my idea a bit, its a suburban shopping centre I want to connect to the rest of the city which I am doing by extending the rail system at both ends (at the moment its a terminus) and changing to light rail. I also want to connect the people with the suburb by creating views and vistas within the architectural design itself. I am looking at different transparent materials at the moment and how I can manipulate views and perceptions by materiality and lighting. Ideally people using the site will use a series of ramps and stairs of varying heights and widths with views out to the surrounding suburbs. The architecture itself will not be entirely clear until one reaches the central building (the train station with a monumental kind of focus).
I have been looking a bit into Jean Nouvel
What do you think??? |
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ar0u30fc
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Jaime, I like your ideas about connecting the retail space to the surburban space surrounding it and what better way to connect through the use of a tram/train line! Your idea about the grid system would work (just look the Barcelona/New York) but a problem you may find would be how a person may respond to a literal maze? Thats were I had to compromise on my design, creating a space that borrowed aspects of a maze, yet provided a space that was comfortable to interact with. I also like your idea of having a central point where people can appreciate the architecture. If shoppers are slightly confused as to the organisation of a space but know that when they reach a certain point all of it will fall into place, this I think will encourage your clients to continue shopping?
Good Luck |
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jaime
Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Location: wellington, new zealand
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah i have had to simplify the layout to ensure easy direct routes. Instead of making it literally like a maze, I am playing with materials and perspectives instead. I'm thinking of having the main pedestrian access that takes you straight to the central train station to be a series of enclosed glass walls with openings for straight passage, maybe an ever so slightly black tinted glass so that you dont walk into them, with a big projection screen on the train station wall with images of the history of the suburb? so that from far away when you enter you cant quite make it out....etc... im elevating parts of the site too so that it isnt one gig flat boring space like most large developments are. |
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