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studio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: proud to be an architect? Reply with quoteFind all posts by studio

if you was studying in University, have you ever been proud to be an architecture student?.. but today... would you still be proud of being an architect?

someone told me architect can make a lot of $, what do you think? if so, architect burns a lot of TIME...

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solidred



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

I'm as proud as a man still standing on a rock who hasn't yet been washed into the rising tide.
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Landy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Landy

oh yeah

but needles to say I've met a lot of people that are afraid of their "Architecturehood", who agrees with me?
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solidred



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

I've always wanted to be an architect and now my job title is one, although I don't yet feel I deserve the description that was formed of those childhood dreams.
As a simple status thing well, I think that's unbecoming and insulting to others: their different backgrounds, capacities, aspirations, opportunities. If it's stated as a simple job description then fine: at least it has the benefit of simplicity. But, for me, the term is coloured something like that of Artist: its an honorarium of achievement, not a straightforward register of activity.
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elisa kouloumenta



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by elisa kouloumenta

sure i am proud of being an architect, we are making this world look better, or not? the clients make the problem... Evil or Very Mad
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solidred



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

Yeah, but that is the problem. We don't have much power. At the moment, the architects I work for have a Building Contractor as a client for some schools buildings. No matter what we try to do to make these schools a good environment, the contractor is simply not interested... they may say they are when it suits them but their actions speak otherwise: they're a business with an attitude designed to maximise profit, whereas I'm an Architect with an entirely different set of values and priorities. It's painful. I'm looking for ways in which changes to this scenario might be effected, so it's early days yet but that's the situation as it stands, for me, at the moment.
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Landy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Landy

solidred! what's the deal with the image under the name, is it you?
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solidred



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

Yes, it's me. I took it at the weekend whilst watching a movie about the rolling stones... hence the leather look. I was editing some profile details first thing this morning and noticed that one can upload avatars, which I thought you couldn't do here. So I uploaded it. Except I'm feeling rather self-concious now, being the only one...
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Landy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Landy

let's make it a show and tell!


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Richard Haut
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

"the architects I work for have a Building Contractor as a client"

my deepest heartfelt sympathy.

whenever I have seen design / improvements / progressions suggested to a British building contractor, the response has always been the same: as if they didn't hear it.

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solidred



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by solidred

Yes... look at that sceptical misery in my expression Wink
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am_i_wry



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by am_i_wry

Richard Haut wrote:
"the architects I work for have a Building Contractor as a client"

my deepest heartfelt sympathy.

whenever I have seen design / improvements / progressions suggested to a British building contractor, the response has always been the same: as if they didn't hear it.


This is why the culture shift that is required to make proper partnering work will only happen very very slowly.

To be fair to contractor clients i have worked with a few who have been very receptive to different things and have at least understood the value of design quality as a means to winning work. Thats not to say that the quality argument has always won through, financial realities are financial realities but there has at least been the will to price up alternatives. The problem usually lies once the builders take over from the bidders. By that stage buildability hasnt been properly designed in and after that cost becomes the key driver. The contracting scene in the UK isnt grown up enough.
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yarchitect



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by yarchitect

hey...dont try to scare me... i m just graduated... still long way to go.... tell me more the real architect's life... Cool
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Architorture
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Architorture

proud
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